there are some groups trying to ban circumcision. and drowning is supposed to be peaceful.

what was the title of the Rooby Tomas article?

an account of urgent importance

I don't really care much for PETA, but I think they're a little more self-aware than you give them credit for being. They know they're annoying cunts; they just think it's worth being an annoying cunt to stop animal suffering (however the fuck you define that). So when they pass out "your mother kills animals" flyers to little kids, they don't want the kid to draw an informed conclusion: they want the kid to flip his shit so bad his mother will stop buying fur. Whether or not you agree with their views or tactics, they've thought this shit through. Also--and I say this as a person who loves to eat the seared flesh of dead animals--what PETA does works. I will bet you a large sum of imaginary money that in two hundred years nobody's eating meat anymore. (Except in the way that implies fellatio, obviously.)

point taken. i still think its fuctup for PETA to use children as emotional amplifiers for their cause... knowing the six year old version of myself, i would be quite upset if a smelly, bead-wearing man leaned over to me and told me my parents were murderers. i'd flip my shit, as you say. kids shouldn't be put through trauma as the result of a purchase made by a parent- which could have occurred years ago- that a group of people may find unethical.

the chicken does taste different.

I don't know, let's just say for a moment that there's this free range animal, we'll call it swest for our purposes and he has the ability to roam free the streets, further his eduction, have love and compassion for those around him, express himself freely, and better himself in anyway he sees fit. He knows that death will some day come, it maybe 70 years from now, he may get hit by a truck next time he leaves his house. So according to SOME people who write uninformed blogs it is OBVIOUSLY a better idea to keep him caged, slightly mutilated, isolated (or in some cases so close to others that he is forced to stand eat and live in a pile of his own shit) extremely depressed, BUT aware that death is just right around the corner, and therefore have "a warm feeling of peaceful anticipation of the end of their (his) suffering." While i agree that children should not be used at tools of the media, I also think that we all too easily forget that we are also animals. Have we totally lost our ability to put ourselves in someone elses shoes? To see the side of the matter from those who are effected by it the most? Oye vey i will stop ranting now, i think you get the point.
P.S. has anyone seen the PETA add with domnique swain? damn she's hot. http://www.peta.org/news/swainbig.jpg

I don't know, let's just say for a moment that there's this free range animal, we'll call it swest for our purposes and he has the ability to roam free the streets, further his eduction, have love and compassion for those around him, express himself freely, and better himself in anyway he sees fit. He knows that death will some day come, it maybe 70 years from now, he may get hit by a truck next time he leaves his house. So according to SOME people who write uninformed blogs it is OBVIOUSLY a better idea to keep him caged, slightly mutilated, isolated (or in some cases so close to others that he is forced to stand eat and live in a pile of his own shit) extremely depressed, BUT aware that death is just right around the corner, and therefore have "a warm feeling of peaceful anticipation of the end of their (his) suffering." While i agree that children should not be used at tools of the media, I also think that we all too easily forget that we are also animals. Have we totally lost our ability to put ourselves in someone elses shoes? To see the side of the matter from those who are effected by it the most? Oye vey i will stop ranting now, i think you get the point.
P.S. has anyone seen the PETA add with domnique swain? damn she's hot. http://www.peta.org/news/swainbig.jpg

I don't know, let's just say for a moment that there's this free range animal, we'll call it swest for our purposes and he has the ability to roam free the streets, further his eduction, have love and compassion for those around him, express himself freely, and better himself in anyway he sees fit. He knows that death will some day come, it maybe 70 years from now, he may get hit by a truck next time he leaves his house. So according to SOME people who write uninformed blogs it is OBVIOUSLY a better idea to keep him caged, slightly mutilated, isolated (or in some cases so close to others that he is forced to stand eat and live in a pile of his own shit) extremely depressed, BUT aware that death is just right around the corner, and therefore have "a warm feeling of peaceful anticipation of the end of their (his) suffering." While i agree that children should not be used at tools of the media, I also think that we all too easily forget that we are also animals. Have we totally lost our ability to put ourselves in someone elses shoes? To see the side of the matter from those who are effected by it the most? Oye vey i will stop ranting now, i think you get the point.
P.S. has anyone seen the PETA add with domnique swain? damn she's hot. http://www.peta.org/news/swainbig.jpg

well damn. whoops

can animals feel depressed? will it change the tenderness of their meat when we kill them days later? i'm just playing devil's advocate here. whether they live free or caged, death is still coming for them in a matter of days, according to PETA flyers in wright's room.

in thailand, little girls are enslaved and forced to blow businessmen and wealthy tourists. enslaved like chickens... yeah, humans are animals too, so should we be paying more attention to poultry than to people, who are not supposed to be slated for execution and then sold as food? or would it quell all complaints if the chicken-killers moved all of their operations into a third world country, where the goings-on don't really seem to matter? when we put ourselves in the shoes of others, maybe we should focus on beings who would actually have an idea of what shoes are!

as much as i love meat, you can't deny that the conditions in factory slaughterhouses are horrendous. you have a heart of stone if that shit doesn't upset you. and it's a terrible justification for anything to say "there are much worse things out there". yeah man, there are also worse things than forced prostitution out there, but that doesn't mean we should disregard it.

i'm gonna go eat some delicious brisket now

Dude, fuck animals man. What purpose do cows and chickens serve besides us eating them and their products. Can you tell me that you fucking bleeding heart hippies?

i never denied that the conditions are horrendous. but its not like all chickens on the planet live in those conditions either....

i'm just saying we should prioritize. you think that if chickens were 8 feet tall they would hesitate to torture and maim us at their whim?

8 feet tall is not all that big. Now 12 feet, that's scary. it would kinda be like Big Bird trying to take over or us exploiting all legal midgets a/o latin and asian countries. wait...we already do.......

fuck the P-E-T-A.
I kill all my animals myself, and then eat them.
and by "kill", I mean I pay supermarkets to kill them and prepackage them for me.
because fuck work.

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conditions in sweatshops are horrendous, but i don't see PETA advocating boycotts of goods made in china by 9 year-old girls chained to sewing machines...

some of the same people do those things. They are called crazy post-undergraduate kids who don't know what to do with their lives.